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- From: bretting@insync.net (Greg Bretting)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
- Subject: Re: External modems are nonsense
- Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 00:26:47 -0800
- Organization: - not one of my strong points, really...
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- On Wed, 03 Jan 96 21:06:15 GMT, Lawrence Kirby <fred@genesis.demon.co.uk>
- wrote:
-
- >In article <4cc69p$eao@drencrom.insync.net>
- > bretting@insync.net "Greg Bretting" writes:
- >
- >>If you get a _good_ internal modem and not some bargain basement junker (also
- >>available in external versions, BTW), you shouldn't have to worry about
- >>power cycling the machine or needing status lights to debug a connection.
- >
- >Most problems are configuration related or related to hardware other
- >than the modem, and have nothing to do with the quality of the modem itself.
-
- No doubt configuration issues exist with internal modems, but then again,
- getting an external doesn't neccessarily solve those problems. In my case,
- I found it neccessary to install an additional serial card for my external
- modem since the machine I have comes equipped with an 8250 UART. This is
- not at all unusual, and in such a case one is faced with essentially the
- same set of problems regardless of the modem form factor - the need to find
- a free slot, configure the thing for the appropriate IRQ and base address,
- and resolving any conflicts that may arise.
-
- >The status indicators are invaluable even with the best modems, often
- >better modems have more comprehensive indicators since the modem
- >manufacturers know this too.
-
- Status indicators are certainly nice to have, but it would seem to me that
- if the modem is working properly and is performing up to par, the need for
- such a display is lessened quite a bit.
-
- >>I've always been amused by those folks who find it neccessary to power
- >>cycle their external modems with any amount of frequency, and then say
- >>they've got it good because their modem has a power switch they can toggle.
- >>If these people were to buy better modems to begin with, it would be a moot
- >>point. Right now I have an external USR Courier V.E that hasn't needed to
- >>be recovered via the power switch even _one_ time, but then again I was
- >>able to say the same for the PPI14400HC internal that it replaced.
- >
- >Internal modems are more susceptible to the system and system bus and, in
- >my experience, have a higher likelihood of crashing.
-
- I'm not sure if I completely understand this; exactly what detrimental
- effects are you suggesting the system and system bus have on an internal
- modem that make it more crash prone (leaving aside any initial conflicts
- during installation)?
-
- >I agree that external Couriers rarely, if ever, crash and that is a good
- >reason to get an external modem. :-)
-
- Or a good reason to get a Courier, period. Are you suggesting that an ISA
- internal version of the Courier would be less reliable?
-
- >>>I have been involved with Modem for some 20 years, and I would never
- >>>use a Internal one, I even set up the very first dial up 2400 bps
- >>>modem here to the USA, used by the Columbus shipping line..
- >>
- >>Well bully for you. As for never using an internal modem, I don't suppose
- >>you own or use a laptop computer, do you? Or are you going to suggest that
- >>we lug along external modems for those as well? Feh...
- >
- >In some cases there are obviously overriding considerations.
-
- Of course, and that's primarily why I responded in the first place; the
- other fellow was making some very broad and simplistic statements that I
- felt were unsupportable - statements to the effect that one should never
- use an internal modem, and if one did, they obviously don't know anything
- about modems. As for myself, I don't really have a preference either way;
- I've used both with a great deal of success. I think there are circum-
- stances where an internal may make more sense to use, and I don't agree
- that they are less reliable or capable simply because they are plugged into
- an ISA slot.
-
- --
- | Greg Bretting |"The whole problem with the world is that |
- | bretting@insync.net |fools and fanatics are always so certain of|
- | --==<< >>==-- |themselves, but wiser people are so full of|
- | |doubts." - Bertrand Russell |
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